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 Post subject: Covid problems
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:47 am 
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Well folks. 700 cases today, highest ever for Ontario. Our neighbours to the west having 300+ and our neighbours to the north east having almost 90.

I really hope we don’t miss the fall walleye hunt due to closed boat ramps. The financial impact to the area would be huge and the mental health aspect for many of us would be a large problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Covid problems
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:29 pm 
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I hope not, BigMac. The impact of a second shutdown would be terrible - both on the County and across Ontario, both financially and for the health of our society.

But, in my (somewhat studied but admitted far from qualified) opinion, it is not necessary at this point!

Here's an interesting source for Covid data on Ontario: https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data

If you look at new active cases, yesterday's 700 is a record as you say. But is the Second Wave really here? Does it really exist even?

In my opinion, active cases is a terrible way to track the disease due to the vagaries of how and who we are testing and how that has changed over time. For example, the published data says that Ontario gave over 4 times more daily tests last week than during the April peak. Add in asymptotic carriers, false positives, who gets access to tests, etc., etc. - makes my head spin.

Actually outcomes from having covid, like hospitalizations, ICU admissions and deaths, do a much better job of tracking impact and prevalence, in my opinion. Hospitalization are indeed up over the last two weeks, from 47 to 128 patients and ICU admits are up from 17 to 29. A cause for concern, sure, but in comparison to the April peak, the record for hospitalizations was 1,008 (May 1) and peak ICU admissions was 261 (April 12). Looking at the ultimate outcome, there were 11 covid deaths in the province in the last week, compared to 369 in the last week of April. There have been 28 deaths in the first 28 days of September; May averaged 38 PER DAY. (And yes, there is latency in death statistics due to the course of illness but even if you time-shift diagnoses back 14 days, the conclusion is the same).

I guess where I am going with this is that the media and government's fixation on using new active cases as the primary measure doesn't show the whole story. At this point, it is not that bad. So I tell my kids: wash your hands, don't pick you nose, zoom call your grandparents... but keep on keeping on.

Oh, and let's keep fishing.

All the best, be safe,
Dano


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 Post subject: Re: Covid problems
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:47 pm 
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BigMac wrote:
Well folks. 700 cases today, highest ever for Ontario. Our neighbours to the west having 300+ and our neighbours to the north east having almost 90.

I really hope we don’t miss the fall walleye hunt due to closed boat ramps. The financial impact to the area would be huge and the mental health aspect for many of us would be a large problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Covid problems
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:37 am 
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Dano
One of the better thought out and researched covid posts I have read on this board, yes they seem obsessed with infection numbers and it stands to reason that the more you test that positives will go up. The age of the infected has gone down its now the 20-40 age group, although not as fatal it seems to have a few nasty lingering side affects.
BigMac
The numbers of boats chasing the fall walleye on any given day is but a fraction of those out on season opener, In my opinion it would achieve nothing by shutting down the ramps this fall, but then its easy low hanging fruit for the politicians to show how much they are doing to fight the cause without upsetting thousands of fisherman, cottage owners or the all important Toronto voters.
Just my opinion, fingers crossed.
Stay safe
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