Invasive species, new perspectives.

DanElliot · **Joined:** Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:59 am **Posts:** 4329

Just saw this article on the CBC website. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/eradicating-invasive-species-may-be-misguided-scientists-say-1.2587130

Superdad · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:36 pm

I had read about the 'invasive' swans on the weekend, they could be a LOT of trouble in the future.

Has anyone seen the numbers of these creatures that stay in the area over the winter????

These are a few close to the dock in Wellington.

There is a program on the Fishing Network about invasive species in the Great Lakes and we will never see what the lakes were like as the changes are permanent.

I think those carp could be a problem for the future.

Just my .02.

David aka Superdad

Perchslayer666 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:45 pm

Is there a swan hunting season? People eat them in the UK and apparently their delicious.... I saying if we are already being infiltrated with invasives, and if they are edible, why not just tell people to eat them? I understand this is happening in the southern states that have an asian carp problem and again the fish is considered to be great table fare...

culp · **Posted:** Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:46 pm

If these things have been flying around north america for 130+ years, why, might I ask have they become a probelm all of a sudden? And why are we still worrying about putting money into invasives? Everyone freaks out everytime there is somethign new introduced, when was the last time that Eff'ed everything up to the point it was unsalvageable. We freak, pump money into getting rid of the problem and they never disapear they just blend in and our native specied adapt, life goes on.

teppy · **Posted:** Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:27 pm

Scr3w the swans....

The ASIAN CARP must be stopped!!!

culp · **Posted:** Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:47 am

You think the carp will be any different than every other invasive species xxxxxxxxxxxx

horsehunter · **Joined:** Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:14 am **Posts:** 387

Remember when Purple Loosestrife was going to take over the world swans are this years flavour

Blue Pickerel · **Posted:** Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:56 pm

Swans don't eat our pickerel, cormorants do.

BigMac · **Joined:** Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:18 pm **Posts:** 1383

I bet Asian carp fight like crazy. Like a giant rainbow trout

.

/sarcastic

landAlunker · **Joined:** Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:05 pm **Posts:** 32

Kill the swans kill em all and the cormorands
I do my part and shoot everyone of them I can when waterfowl ing on the bay

Billy Dee · **Posted:** Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:27 pm

culp wrote:

If these things have been flying around north america for 130+ years, why, might I ask have they become a probelm all of a sudden? And why are we still worrying about putting money into invasives? Everyone freaks out everytime there is somethign new introduced, when was the last time that Eff'ed everything up to the point it was unsalvageable. We freak, pump money into getting rid of the problem and they never disapear they just blend in and our native specied adapt, life goes on.

I'm not so sure about that. I've been around for 40(ish) years and never noticed as many swans as I have this last few years. Also, totally unscientific, but in the areas where I duck hunt, since the increase in swan action I have noticed a reduction in duck nests, ducklings and adult ducks in the fall. I haven't counted, but I'm out there a lot and have noticed less ducks.

teppy · **Posted:** Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:15 am

Look at the picture in the article.... tell me how are you going to teach your kids to water ski/kneeboard or any other water sports for that matter without getting hurt! Let alone they reproduce twice/year, that tells you they will out compete our species!
I guess people would want them to come in if you want to drive the waterfront prices down!!

culp · **Posted:** Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:27 pm

Blue Pickerel wrote:

Swans don't eat our pickerel, cormorants do.

Cormerants are native to Ontario.

culp · **Posted:** Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:28 pm

horsehunter wrote:

Remember when Purple Loosestrife was going to take over the world swans are this years flavour

That just one fine example !

culp · **Posted:** Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:33 pm

Billy Dee wrote:

culp wrote:

If these things have been flying around north america for 130+ years, why, might I ask have they become a probelm all of a sudden? And why are we still worrying about putting money into invasives? Everyone freaks out everytime there is somethign new introduced, when was the last time that Eff'ed everything up to the point it was unsalvageable. We freak, pump money into getting rid of the problem and they never disapear they just blend in and our native specied adapt, life goes on.

I'm not so sure about that. I've been around for 40(ish) years and never noticed as many swans as I have this last few years. Also, totally unscientific, but in the areas where I duck hunt, since the increase in swan action I have noticed a reduction in duck nests, ducklings and adult ducks in the fall. I haven't counted, but I'm out there a lot and have noticed less ducks.

I'm just doing the math from when they were reported in the country and what year it is now.
And that sucks about where you hunt, I hunt on lake Erie and we are seeeing more ducks in the past few years than we have have previously.
Animal numbers kinda work in waves, 2 years there will be a crap load of Fox and they will eat a crap load of rabbits and then there will be less and les rabbits, then there won't be enough rabbits, so then there will be less Fox and because there is lass Fox the rabbits will thrive again. It's one big cycle with everything.

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