Down Rigging rods/reels??

CrowMan · **Posted:** Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:03 pm

The 500 rates at 450 yds of 12lb. mono or 400 yds of 40lb. braid, which should be more than enough for any kid of downrigging application for freshwater fish. Even if you want to jump up to 30 lb. mono to beat the fleas....you can still squeeze in 200 + yds. If any fish pulls out more than that, start chasing him with the boat ! The only fish in Ontario waters that might do that are mature Kings.

Besides, I if you're worried about getting spooled....first wind on 300 yds + of braid as backing, and then a top shot of 150 to 50 ft of mono or fluorocarbon. Iffind that mono holds better and releases more smoothly from the downrigger release/clip...but I do like the "no stretch" properties of braid for setting the hook, and "feeling" the fight.

Unless you're looking to load up with wire or full lengths of leadcore, you won't need the 700 size....besides we call these heavy wire rigs "widow-makers"....you get a heart attack crankin' them in...

GAP · **Joined:** Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:16 pm **Posts:** 223

Thanks for all of the advice. Greatly appreciated!
So I bought two used Tekota 500 but with no line counters so that should take care of my riggers. Still need rods though.

Anyways, I was wondering what reels to use on the Dipsys. The guy I bought the reels from said he uses the Convector 15D with 10' Okuma Blue Diamond rod for his Dipsy. Says he loves them. Any thoughts?? Coldwater reel sizes?
And 000 size Dipsys?? For walleye/lakers/etc

May try the leadcore later down the road. Right now I just needed something to occupy my mind and spend money on:)
The wife is pretty happy about it......

Glenn

horsehunter · **Joined:** Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:14 am **Posts:** 387

If your Shakespeare downrigger rod is 10 years old or more it's junk but being crazy I would take it off your hands :wink:

polliwogg · **Posted:** Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:40 am

Note the pliers on Bobv75 next to the riggers . You hang up a rigger in a heavy following sea you don't have time to go looking for pliers. Consider maybe a noodle rod.

CrowMan · **Posted:** Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:56 pm

Any decent Med-heavy rod will work with Dipsy's. It doesn't need to be fast or sensitive, a slow/moderate action is best.. Again, a fibre-glass/graphite blend, as they're under load the entire time you fish them. I like them at least 9 ft long, to maximize the distance between the Dipsy and the bait. St.Croix has some nice sticks specific for Dipsy/Walleye. For Trout and Salmon, at a good price point... check out the Shimano Talora rods.

My hottest Chinook rig has always been Dypsy on wire, SpinDoctor/Fly combo...I live for those the savage hits that feel like the rod's being ripped out of the holder !!

As for reels, same models (Tekota, Penn, Abu) I mentioned earlier in this thread, it doesn't matter...downrigging, wire, lead-core, planer boards, Dypsys...you can use all the same reels...just depends the size, and what kind of line they're loaded with...
With downrigging a line-counter isn't critical (afterall, you can see the depth on the rigger's counter), with Dypsy's it's pretty much a must have, unless you want keep doin' the math, counting level-wind passes.

GAP · **Joined:** Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:16 pm **Posts:** 223

So for my dipsy I am going with the Convector 30D that I already own and getting another one so I have two the same and keep the cost down at least until I give it all a try. I am going to order the reel and a 1500 yd spool of Power Pro braid from Protackle and was wondering what test yous would recommend. I was thinking 40 lb. The price is the same up to 50 lb. I also need to load up the two Tekota 500's that I mentioned earlier that I bought for my riggers. I was going to use 20 lb mono on these. Any thoughts on my decisions would be very welcome.

And thanks for everyone's input on this subject . It has given me lots of info to research and I really appreciate the sharing your knowledge.
Glenn

chesapeake · **Joined:** Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:15 pm **Posts:** 139

I would not put braid on those 30s for dipsy rods. I would purchase wire. 1000ft will fit on a 30.

Wire comes in 7 and 19 strand options. I use the 19 from torpedo products.

Like previously mentioned, a dipsy rod with wire connected to dipsy(I like white), 6ft 30-50 floro, then a paddle/Dr, then a matching fly. THIS WILL CATCH SALMON AND THE HITS ARE VICIOUS.

I do not use snubber s behind the dipsy. My drag is set just above the point it will pull out more line at trolling speed. I also check and set my release tension on dipsy. I can trip them with a good lift of the rod.

Another thing I do for salmon well actually trolling for pretty much anything. No giant hooksets after a hit. Get on the reel and keep the tension taught.

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GAP · **Joined:** Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:16 pm **Posts:** 223

chesapeake wrote:

I would not put braid on those 30s for dipsy rods. I would purchase wire. 1000ft will fit on a 30.

Wire comes in 7 and 19 strand options. I use the 19 from torpedo products.

Like previously mentioned, a dipsy rod with wire connected to dipsy(I like white), 6ft 30-50 floro, then a paddle/Dr, then a matching fly. THIS WILL CATCH SALMON AND THE HITS ARE VICIOUS.

I do not use snubber s behind the dipsy. My drag is set just above the point it will pull out more line at trolling speed. I also check and set my release tension on dipsy. I can trip them with a good lift of the rod.

Another thing I do for salmon well actually trolling for pretty much anything. No giant hooksets after a hit. Get on the reel and keep the tension taught.

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Don't I need to use special rods for wire line? And why wire in stead of braid?

pickerel killer · **Joined:** Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:28 pm **Posts:** 648

Wire roller rods are ideal, but a rod with stainless eyes can be used with wire. Wire dives deeper than braid, and braid gums up real bad with fleas in the summer. Stay away from 19 strand torpedo it frays very easily. Stick with 7 strand if you go the wire route.

Bobv75 · **Joined:** Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:23 am **Posts:** 194

I use 50 or 60 pound braid with my dipseys. I find that it is way easier to deal with.

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mitch · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:18 am

No issues here with 19 strand wire for the last 4 years on my dipsy line. Secondly, my daiwa rod does not have any stainless eyes and I have not experienced guide problems.

GAP · **Joined:** Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:16 pm **Posts:** 223

What about these Twili Tips. Does anyone us them?

mitch · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:19 am

Torpedo has a very nice roller guide which is easy to install

CrowMan · **Posted:** Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:35 am

There is something about the "vibrating frequency" of wire with a Dipsy that seems to just call in fish. Plus with wire, the fleas just slice right off. Braid seems to attract fleas like a magnet. You don't necessarily need rollers or a twilly tip...but watch your wire carefully for kinks, and your guides for grooves.

I like 7-strand....but buddies that use the 19 are happy with it too....with either one you need to constantly vigilant with kinking.

For walleye/trout on inland lakes (no fleas), I do use braid with the smaller size Dipsies....
I'll even use a small Dipsy off a downrigger....to get really stealthy.... the "Secret Weapon Rig"

GAP · **Joined:** Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:16 pm **Posts:** 223

Thanks again for the tips on dipsy rigs. I think I will go with the wire line. I have not purchased any rods yet and am now looking for suggestions on what to buy for dipsy rods using wire. If I am going to buy I want to get the right thing the first time.

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