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 Post subject: planer boards
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:44 am 
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Walleye Fry

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Just a question about large planer boards.I have just purchased a Riviera mast and I'm looking for boards. Are there any out there that out perform others? How do Otter boats compare to boards? Any input would be appriciated. Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Planer Boards
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:34 pm 
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Outkast:

Here's an idea from the quintefishing.com site.

http://www.quintefishing.com/make_your_own_dual_planer_boards.htm

You can make your own, they work well. I used to have a pair but sold em as I wasn't using them.

Can't comment on the pluses/minuses of the store bought boards.

Lotsa Luck

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 Post subject: planer boards
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:30 pm 
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Walleye Angler

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I would be interested to hear moe as well, and am curious about the pro's and cons of using a mast.

I had the opportunity to fish with some smaller planer boards while home at Christmas and was surprised at their ease and efficiency, even envisioning this for the small boat market. The larger ones have me puzzled.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:38 pm 
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I personnally use the Riviera dual boards and they work perfectly for me. I have two friends who bought their new model that are triple and they work well also. The Riviera have the styrofoam exposed on the inside. It may degrade faster over the time. Another friend of mine have bought the bright red dual Cannon, whick are fully covered with plastic, and they work well too. They may be more solid but they are heavier than the Riviera, and more expensive.

I found that the big boards are working better at high speed (salmon & steelhead fishing), at low speed they don't track as well and there is a lot of stops and go. The in-line boards are tracking very well at all speed so I tend to prefer those for slow trolling on Quinte.

But you can't beat that with big boards the line is released from the tow line and you're free to fight the fish right from the start.



I have no experience with the Big John Otter John unfortunately, the only thing I know is that they take a LOT of space in the boat when you don't use them, since they are not foldable like the Cannon and the Rivieras.

The Riviera triple are a good choice, they are the ones I recommend to you.


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 Post subject: home built boards
PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:24 pm 
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Walleye

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Gota go with superdad on this on. :D
I built a set from those plans.They work great & take very little time to build(3/4 day).
Only one thing, you should use them in pairs to even out the stresses on the mast.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:22 pm 
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Walleye Fry

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Thanks for the input guys. I guess I still have a few months to decide. I have always used the inlines and they work well. I have yet to use big boards but they seem to run multiple lines much easier and further away from the boat.And as jfneron said, you're free to fight the fish right from the start.
Superdad, thats a great idea you have. I'm going to look into that, although storage may be an issue.
As Don stated, it would be good to hear all the pro and cons from everyone who has used both. I also fish Lake Ontario for Salmon and Trout and I think thats where the bigger boards would work best.
Thanks again guys !!!!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:10 pm 
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I can see this as a project for the winter months. The plans state Redwood. Are there any alternate choices of wood or is Redwood the best?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:42 pm 
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outkast, dont forget with the big boards, when the line gets released from the mainline, it will have a few seconds of pure slack line until it tighten's up.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:25 pm 
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Walleye Fry

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You're right Steve. Thats the critical time you hold your breath ! 8O The way redwood was described to me was this... The wood soaks water and makes them pull like no other. Most charter captains use this because they pull so hard, you can run many,many lines. The thing is, they don't run very high out of the water and they look like an old piece of wood. Is this safe? I'm only thinking two,maybe three lines a side.( I say that now. A boat load of guys with two rods each may change my mind! LOL ) Thanks guys !


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:18 pm 
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i have used both the big boards preform better in rough water condition's.
they are also easier to use when more than three people fishing with 2 rod's each. i find more fish lost due to the slack when fish releases from main line .small inlines are my personal prefrence i mainly fish alone or with one other person . i find i can set and check lines quicker when there is debri or weeds floating in water. when there is a lot of boat traffic and you have to move a board quickly you don't have run to the mast to pull in board .catch to loss ratio much higher, much easier to tell when dragging a small fish around . each person has ther own preference i have fished with large board and a mast for about 17 year's the last 9 years with inlines i will never go back to the big board's .

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:33 am 
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we have been able to run six inlines without tangles successfully off my 17' boat....smaller beam on the back.

however, a guide who fishes on the south shore on lake Ontario for salmon has no problems running eight inlines for salmon.....

i definitely prefer the big boards when great lakes salmon fishing...but for walleye, gimme my inlines. :D


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:09 pm 
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Full sized boards such as the popular Riviera Dual Planer Board have their roots in big water. Designed to be used on open water and with larger sized fishing boats, there is little doubt that dual boards have the edge when fishing rough water. The Riviera DPB has a wider board spacing to make it more stable and the ballast of the board has been changed to cause the nose to ride a little higher in the water. Collectively these subtle changes have transformed an excellent planer board into one all others will be compared to.

The large size of dual boards enables then to plow through bumpy seas when trolling both with and against the waves. Trollers who spend much of their time quartering seas or trolling into the waves will find that dual boards are superior compared to in-line size boards. Dual boards also have the clear advantage regarding the number of lines that can be fished per side. With a dual board system its common for anglers to fish four, five or even six lines per side!

If you’ve got a big boat and frequently fish with four to six anglers aboard, dual planer boards are the easiest way to deploy the maximum number of lines. Dual boards are also the obvious choice for fishing situations that involve deep diving crankbaits, Snap Weights, lead core line, gang spinners (aka cowbells), dodgers and other trolling hardware that are heavy or that pull exceptionally hard in the water.

For all the advantages dual boards poses, in-line boards are equally handy. Handy is the right word, because in-line boards such as the Off Shore Tackle Side Planer are easier to use than dual boards. Simply set your lure the desired distance behind the boat, clip on the Side Planer, let out more line until the board is the desired distance from the boat, put the rod in the holder and troll. When a fish is hooked, the Side Planer and fish are reeled in together, you remove the board from the line and the fight continues. This straight forward style of board trolling is easy to learn and fun. In addition to being user friendly, in-line boards are less expensive.

In addition to being less expensive, in-line boards have some other subtle advantages. In-line boards ride the waves in a different way than dual boards. Smaller in-line boards tend to jerk around in the swells while imparting a unique start-and-stop action to the lures. Many veteran trollers feel that in-line boards trigger more strikes than dual board systems that produce a more uniform trolling action. In-line boards also have the advantage of maintaining steady tension against the fish during the entire fight. When a fish strikes a lure trolled on a dual board system, the line is pulled free from a release. For a few seconds slack line exists until the boat catches up to the fish and the line is pulled tight again. These few seconds of slack line are often enough to allow a fish that’s not hooked securely to escape. With an in-line board hooked fish pull against the resistance of the board. The angler keeps tension on the fish by reeling the board and fish in together. So long as the boat is kept moving forward slowly, there’s constant tension on the fish. In-line boards work so well that few hooked fish escape. This is one of the primary reasons professional tournament anglers favor in-line boards.

Both dual boards and in-line boards have their advantages and disadvantages. Choosing one type of planer board over another boils down to how and where the boards will be used. On big open water where big boats rule, the dual board system is the king of planer boards. Anglers who fish from smaller boats and often frequent a wealth of different water types, in-line boards are both functional and practical. While the choice is personal, the fact is you can’t make a bad decision. Both dual boards and in-line boards are efficient and exciting ways to fish. Take your pick and get involved in the excitement of planer board fishing.

Source: http://www.offshoretackle.com/2003articles.htm

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 Post subject: planer boards
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:31 am 
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Walleye Angler

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Excellent responce. I thoroughly enjoyed reading the above mentioned poster. I am still learning about the role of masts with this.......

Donald Stokes


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:58 pm 
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Walleye Fry

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Thanks guys !! You're responses are awsome. I'm not giving up on the in-line boards. They have their own purposes. I think I'm leaning towards the Canon or the Walker boards. They do look like the same board. Anyone out there with pros and cons on otter boats?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:20 pm 
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try using poplar instead i did and they work great. Just remember to use a good primer before you paint them.


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